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    I know that there a lot of IT people on Lemmy, and it fits the stereotype, but quite a few of the posts in this thread really scream “I tried XY but it meant physically tiring stuff!” Lol

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      The laugh track.

      It ruins so. Many. Shows.

      I mean … maybe I’m wrong here. But if you wrote actual funny things, I’d laugh. Idk. I’m probably wrong.

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        Oddly, though, you can’t just cut it out from shows that have it, especially if they actually film in front of a live audience, though even those with canned laughter are playing in the same sandbox. The pacing and the vibe gets completely thrown off because the writers and actors have to account for the laughs, and it becomes eerie without them. It’s a different style of making TV that’s seeking a different type of reaction from the TV audience, and has different limitations. Understanding that can let you enjoy the best examples of the form (admittedly almost all 20 years old or more). Stock characters slinging zingers and potentially doing pratfalls can be amusing (though the form has a direct lineage to radio shows so it tends to be light but verbal – the physicality is a huge part of what made I Love Lucy groundbreaking), but it doesn’t shine when trying to do cringe, nuance, dramedy, or densely packed humor.

        This is not to say that you should watch The Big Bang Theory. You should not. It’s awful. The easy tropes and low cost of production (other than stars’ salaries if a show takes off) means that so much garbage has been done in this format, I daresay higher than single-camera “movie style” shows. It’s just that it’s not quite so simple as “write more funnier.”

        IMO, it’s almost like telling a musical theater writing team that their play would be better if the characters weren’t constantly breaking into song. For the record, my instincts and tastes leave me sympathetic to that last point, so I just don’t watch many musicals, live or recorded. It’s not that they’re bad; the appeal is just lost on me. Same with multi-cam sitcoms with laugh-tracks.

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          Laugh tracks are needed… It just bothers me.

          I once saw a video of the wonder years with out the voice over.

          It’s not great. So the added voice / laughter has value. I just don’t enjoy it.

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          MASH is one of the best TV shows ever made and that has a laugh track through most of it, although I’ve heard it aired in Europe without it and was mostly better for it, but that is the show that first started challenging the need for a laugh track in the first place and successfully ditched it when they went harder into dramedy.

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        Without it most of them are just condescending and misogynist. It’s always sunny in Philadelphia has no laugh track and is just great.

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      —sees a woman in a game store—

      “Ummmm is she lost?” —scoff—

      —laugh track plays—

      Unironically actually in the show.

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      I stopped watching TV when my favourite channel lost access to several shows and turned into a TBBT re-run channel. Four. Fucking. Episodes. Every day. The series looped about once every two months.

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        I gave up on television sometime around the end of Stargate SG-1, somewhere in the middle of Eureka!.

        It was right around then that only the 24 hour news networks were what they said they were; there was no Sci-Fi on SyFy, no history on History, no music on MTV, no discovery on Discovery…adult prime time television was going to the humorless “gritty realism” phase, and the only topic anyone would smalltalk about was Game of Thrones.

        To this day I watch basically nothing but Youtube.

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          It’s been so many years for me too. Can’t even remember when I actively watched TV. If I try to watch some today, I’m immediately put off by the amount of ads and all that reality garbage, that has surprisingly little to do with actual reality. Can’t we just call that low production value trash instead?

          I even tried some of the official apps these channels have, and they were about as awful. The good thing is, you can DNS filter the ads on your tablet, so at least you can watch without being constantly interrupted. Sadly, that still didn’t address the underlying issue of finding worth watching. Some documentaries and movies were ok though.

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      My father got big into that show. Destroyed his ability to hold a conversation, because Every. Single. Fucking. Thing. You. Say. To. Him. "Reminds me of this thing that happened on Big Bang Theory where Sheldon…

      He’s got a litany of shitty sitcoms he can’t just fucking stop with. “Character says something.” laugh track “Well other character says sumn else!” laugh track. “Maternal and/or love interest character walks across room, touches character’s arm, says something about feelings.” canned manufactured pindrop silence “Character says sumn else!” laugh track

      Fuck your ventricles.

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    Cocaine. It was VERY fun. I fucking loved it.

    I haven’t touched it since. I just knew the hole it would lead me down.

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      I had the opposite experience. It just gave an earwax taste, killed my beer buzz, and the next day i felt like a spike had be driven through my skull.

      Same result, never touched it again.

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          Every day I’m reminded by the lack of curiosity of the average person.

          M8 just try it, it’s not like it’s toxic. Sometimes you just gotta put the weird shit in your mouth.

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            If that’s what you consider useful curiosity…then im the one worried for “average” people

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              Earwax (usually?) is not toxic if thats what you are worried… So you can pretty safely put it in your mouth (or just the tip of your tongue) and then spit it, that way you will know the taste.

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          HAHAHAHA I was a child once 🤣 it’s not a taste you forget. It’s not bad per se. Just unique, wouldn’t particularly suggest it…

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      When you could get $5 foot longs it was worth it. But sammiches are like $15 now.

      And then I read once there is so much sugar in the bread that in Europe it would be considered cake.

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      As a Christian, I can completely relate to your sentiment. I’ve found Christians to be the most closed-off, narrow-minded group of people, distrusting and even downright antagonistic of anything that sounds “non-Chiristian.”

      As a Christian, I’m sorry you’ve been hurt. It’s not right.

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        You guys were taught that it was god?? I was taught it was always satan or some lesser demon lying to me.

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          I don’t have a voice but that sounds scary. Are all Christians taught that? I’ve never heard of that.

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            I don’t think they’re all taught that, I think my church was just paranoid and insane, tbh.

            And they never outright said it was the entire “voice”, but that pointed to so many individual things, I felt like it was. It was easier to reject any kind of negative emotions or complicated thoughts or unfamiliar opinions as some kind of outside attack than to really sit with them.

            I guess it’s not really relevant to the conversation at hand, other than pointing out that christians can be all different types of dysfunctional :p

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    A couple years ago I was out hunting with a friend and we saw a porcupine. My dad had always told me they were delicious and it was in season so I took my shot. Once we had the meat I thought I would take the hide home and harvest the quills.

    Good. Lord. Porcupines are filthy creatures. I had a Rubbermaid full of soapy water and I was pulling the quills and guard hairs out and then trying to wash them free of literal shit.

    But basically all I was doing was shit-needle acupuncture all over my hands. I was sure I was gonna end up with some sort of porcupine aids or something.

    I spent a good 3-4 hours trying to clean the largest of the quills and guard hairs, and then I said fuck it. Took my fistfull of “clean” quills and put the rest in a few old paper bags and into the green bin.

    I found quills in my clothes almost a year later. While visiting a friends house in jeans I had NOT been wearing, while out ice fishing (in the bibs I wore), in my sock one day.

    I’m sure there aren’t that many people on here that have been considering taking a porcupine and trying to weave/craft with its quills. But please, don’t do it.

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      I need to go right now and wash the few quills I received from a porcupine zoo experience. They keep quills that are shed and hand a few out to folks. Poop acupuncture, omg. Since you appear to have survived, your poop antibodies must be off the charts now. 😅

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        I’m basically invisible.

        I should have just gone to your zoo… I ended up with maybe 40 quills or something, my friends collection from pulling them out of her horse and dog is bigger…

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        Very sadly, it was not. I’m not sure if it was my fault, the prep or what. I do eat all sorts of wild game that I’ve hunted or salvaged. I love squirrel and pigeon, I’ve eaten road kill deer, bear, moose, goose… Cotton tail and snowshoe hare… Wild Turkey… Basically if it’s made of meat I’ll give it a go. Still waiting to try raccoon and beaver, which I do wonder if they won’t share some similarities…

        But I found it very unpleasant. Raw the meat was so… gelatinous? Delicate? Like pressing with a finger would leave a sad dent. It spread out on the cutting board like gravity was too much for it.

        We did it as taco meat so I just threw it in the instant pot with onions and maybe some chili spices I can’t recall… it had that skunky gameyness that I’ve started to associate with older animals and poorly handled meat. She may have been a great Grammama but the meat was well cared for and eaten fresh.

        We shredded and ate it on tortillas with onions and homemade salsas. My sister and brother in law didn’t mind it and my partner said it was ok but I’ve sworn them off for now. They are very charming creatures so it’s not all bad.

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          I’ve been informed by a relative that had partaken in eating one, that the meat of a porcupine is mostly flavorless on its own.

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        I had porcupine when I was a kid. I found it gross, the meat smells gross and it’s super gamey. Was cooked by my grandparents who are native and hunted all their lives so it wasn’t cooked wrong or not cleaned, I just thought it was gross.

        Unrelated but moose meat is the best meat in existence IMO. I could eat that every day for the rest of my life and die with a smile on my face.

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          Moose meat is so good. I’ve had a few supplies over the years. A neighbour got a roadkill once, and a friend’s dad hunted one, but he doesn’t hunt anymore.

          I’d love to go get a moose, but I don’t have anyone in my social circles who hunt, and you basically have to have a party to hunt moose in Ontario.

          I gotta say I love deer and moose, but black bear is surprisingly good. I smoked some honey black bear hams from my last bear and ma.gawd. Only downside to bear is it’s like pork, can’t have it rare.

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    Salvia Divinorum

    At one point in time I could probably have been convinced to try a lot of things. Fortunately for me (probably) Salvia Divinorum was the first thing I tried after marijuana, and it so thoroughly destroyed any notion I had that I could control my experience that it put me off trying just about everything else I was curious about.

    Thank god the entire experience is single digit minutes.

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      Oh man, I think it’s a fantastic and intense single digit minute experience.

      My first time I turned into a big red and white circus tent. The stretching out I experienced was fucking crazy, and I screamed in laughter and horror. It was wild.

      I can understand it not being someone’s cup of tea, but the hysterical laughter has been in every salvia trip I’ve done.

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        I had no hallucinations - they may have been inhibited by my absolute panic.

        It was a very long time ago for me but from what I can recall -

        I felt immediately mostly disconnected from my body, and like I was constantly falling or about to fall. I essentially laid there starfished on the bed telling myself over and over that it was supposed to be really short and wondering if I’d just killed myself until it passed, then got up and decided I’d never touch that shit again.

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        whoa! that’s funny – once I turned into a ferris wheel! I thought that was just a me thing, but circus tent sounds poetically close to my experience.

        That same time though, my partner had a maybe too-intense time, meeting wise aliens and disappointedly coming back to this stupid life.

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          meeting wise aliens and disappointedly coming back to this stupid life.

          Did he also happen to forget his pen?

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            I feel like I’m missing a reference to something…

            But here’s one for ya: he came back suddenly knowing how to play the flute.

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              It’s a reference to Tool’s “Rosetta Stoned”. Its protagonist tells a wild story how on a drug trip he met some wise aliens who shared some very important message with him. But sadly he forgot his pen, so he couldn’t write it down, and forgot all. Consequently, like your partner, he came back pretty pissed off (or soiled, you might say).

              But hey, getting secret alien knowledge on how to play the flute is still a positive, so good for your guy.

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                lol, nice. I’ll have to listen to that song… I got into their earlier stuff when it came out.

                The flute was a reference to a ST:TNG episode, “Inner Light.” Kind of a classic… I won’t spoil it in case you watch it!

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                  Interesting. I will check it out. ST: TNG is the only Star Trek I’ve enjoyed, and I have watched only a few full episodes, like a century ago, so I was gearing for a rewatch anyway.

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      I’ve long been interested in this and dph for the large number of “don’t do it” stories. Same with h, but that one tends to be “don’t do it because it’s so good”.

      Don’t think I ever will, but stories like yours always give me a tingle.

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        Clearly for some folks it’s great. I dunno maybe I just wasn’t in the right frame of mind. It hits you all at once, there is no buildup, and that may have contributed to me freaking out.

        Don’t get me wrong, I intended my comment as a warning, but with a trusted sitter in a safe space maybe someone else will have a better first time.

        My understanding is it’s not a particularly high risk drug, despite how intensely it kicks you (or at least me) in the face. (but again, don’t take my word for it)

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          I haven’t heard that it’s high risk either, merely that it’s usually miserable. Part of me wants to know what that feels like though.

          Honestly, hats off to those who enjoy it

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        It’s a very weird drug. I only know one person who actually likes the experience.

        I went to a white and grey world where I became a bookshelf and the corner brick of a building for a bit.

        I tried it a couple of times and have no desire to try it again. It’s more of a drug for people who want to explore and experiment.

        My tips: sit down when doing it. Have a sober person present. People sometimes start moving around and injure themselves.

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        Yeah it was rough. But in the same sense that I’m glad I didn’t own a sportbike when I was young (because I’m certain I’d have hurt myself or others with it at that age), it’s probably not a bad thing that I got some firm discouragement against that kind of experimentation. It didn’t end my experimentation, but it certainly helped me realize I wasn’t immortal.

        (I do none of that kind of thing for decades now. Just nothing I want to mess with these days.)

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    I went to a Young Life gathering to try and meet people at uni freshman year. The first one was a slightly awkward BBQ at someone’s off campus house. The second was on campus event that dropped off into that Uncanny Valley of mormon-like sing-alongs and activities.

    My buddy and I surveyed the room, felt the hair on the back of our necks prickle, and we got out of there.

    If you’ve seen Heretic or The Endless, it gave off those religious vibes. Too happy/smiley. Too weirdly perfect. Everyone talking about volunteering at kids camps over the summer and how fulfilling it was.

    Like, I’m glad that people found something they liked. But it wasn’t people talking about real stuff, like their awesome mountain biking adventure over the summer, or volunteering overseas to rescue animals, or even getting over alcoholism. It was all hyper religious forced positivity, and this is coming from someone who grew up religious.

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    Anal(probably)

    No me gusto poopoo en mi peepee

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      Oral sex is a high-end sports car; it can be incredibly impressive based on the driver. Vaginal is a luxury sedan. A handjob is public transit; it gets you there eventually, but eh.

      Anal is the jeep of sex. Yeah you might get dirty, it’s a little rough, but some people just love off-roading in their jeep. And if that’s what they’re into, then they’re probably really into it.

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    Technically, I guess this was twice, but <HankHill>the mari-hwanas</HankHill>.

    Smoked a little in a perfectly lovely part of Amsterdam with my wife, who importantly is NOT a chronic overthinker who was raised by uptight Southern-fried Mormons, but I just immediately got paranoid and was obsessed with the likelihood that two random Dutch guys were staring at me and planning something bad. The fact that ten years later I still think it was possible they were eyeing us, while she is completely dismissive, tells me I do not need to be smoking pot.

    Also tried some edibles in the hotel room, but that just made me sleepy with nothing particularly fun happening, though admittedly nothing bad happened either. Very “Meh.”

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      Never smoked, edibles only, but anything but the weakest THC levels gives me an intense paranoia that I despise. However, if I do manage to get something with a stupidly low THC dosage, I get to enjoy it for its benefits. Mostly, it helps my brain let go of obsessive thinking. It’s a bit like a muscle relaxing after holding it tight.

      But damn is that a tightrope to walk. I absolutely do not blame you for never touching the stuff again.

      Also one time I took an edible that was paired with melatonin and thought I was going to suffocate and die. (Then I slept for 10 hours.)

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      Yeah, that happens sometimes. It happened to me the 2nd or 3rd time I ever smoked pot. Hasn’t happened since. I’m a very, very irregular smoker though, and don’t smoke much more than just enough to feel a mild buzz.

      I’ve got a batch of edibles in the freezer–I made some brownies for my partner–but apparently you aren’t supposed to use a whole ounce in a small pan of brownies? IDK, apparently they’re a bit on the strong side.

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        I’ve heard many times that “alcohol is worse than smoking pot” or “they’re about the same”, depending on who you ask. Never smoked pot, so I can’t speak from experience there, but booze never caused me any of the weird stuff I read about smoking.

        Sure, drink a lot, and you you will run into some nasty problems. Also seems to hold true for the people who smoke way too much. I know some people who have been smoking for years, and their brains are clearly fried to a crisp. Then again, if they had been drinking instead, who knows how bad it would have been. Probably very bad.

        However, smoking once can apparently have some unexpected results, whereas drinking once… Well, if you have just a few drinks, you should be relatively fine. If you drink a lot, you’ll wake up the next morning in someone else’s house with a stolen traffic sign next to you. Oh, and the Unexplained Party Injuries, embarrassing photos, hangover etc. Now don’t get me wrong, there are some serious downsides.

        It’s just that smoking seems to have some truly bizarre downsides. Maybe it’s all about how much you smoke.

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          My understanding is that there’s no safe level of drinking, that it’s all bad for you. OTOH, I’d rather have a double single-malt, neat, than smoke pot, even if it is worse for me. IDK, I’ve just never had a huge interest in pot; it’s okay, not great, and not worth the shit I’d get into in my state if I got busted with >27g.

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        The guy we buy our edibles from indeed uses a whole ounce in every batch. I only have a nibble and my husband eats half of whatever it is, muffin or brownie.

  • Bungee jumping.

    I didn’t even want to do it to begin with, I just got in the wrong line for the big waterslide at Manteca Waterslides and said “fuck it, why not?”

    Hated it. And this was in a special location, with a giant air bag under you. I can’t imagine base jumping from a bridge or on the side of a mountain of something. 😨

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      I got a jump for my 18th birthday and was really looking forward to it. It was a jump from a crane over a lake and you would dip your head in the water at the lowest point. The jump itself was ok but nothing I’d want to repeat in itself but once I reached the lowest point and the rebound hit me, my head felt like it was about to explode. I felt horrible for the next few hours plus my hair was wet from the dip. Thanks, just no thanks.

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      My ex-partner and I started skydiving together. They loved it, I was indifferent. Since I was indifferent, I dropped out, 'cuz that shit’s expensive. My partner kept doing it.

      One of the people we did ground school with–that’s the classes you have to take before you do your first solo jump–died base jumping about 3 years later. In 3 years, he’d accumulated well over 1000 jumps. Nice guy. Always chasing a thrill though.

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    Tried snowboarding, never again.

    Turns out, your legs need to be really strong, or you’ll have your hands on the ground too often. If that happens like every minute, your shoulders are not going to be pleased with that. I have a feeling that this short experiment may have caused some minor damage my physiotherapist was unable to detect.

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      I never understood that. When snowboarding, you can just rotate to brake, and then you can just sit to take a break if you want. Heck, you can even do the leaf down a whole slope, easily and safely, and it’s still kind of fun.

      Meanwhile, skiing requires superhuman leg strength, even if you just want to go slowly, and will twist your legs in gruesome ways when you fall.

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        If skiing takes a lot of physical work, that’s a sign that your stance is off. You can ski almost anywhere just by shifting your body weight from one foot to the other. Back when I was a ski instructor, my old boss (a ski instructor of multiple decades) used to say that skiing is a “skeletal” sport, not a “muscular”. If you’re working hard it’s likely because there’s something wrong with your stance and you’re subconsciously using your muscles to compensate. The most common specific example of this I saw in my lessons (and had a habit of myself which I’ve been working on for years) was skier’s quads burning out, because they were leaning back (consciously or not), because they lacked confidence (consciously or not).

        I’ve come to learn that this advice applies to any physical activity. You can tell a master by their economy of movement, whether it’s snow sports, playing an instrument, martial arts, or tossing haybails. Use weight and momentum, don’t fight it.

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          My main issue is that the beginner’s stance they teach you is trying to maintain a pie shape to reduce your speed as you go down. The problem is that the skis want to either be parallel, either go fully horizontal. It takes a ton of effort to resist the skis’ tendency to align themselves that way, and the consequences for failure are dramatic.

          There’s assuredly a way to make it easier, but with the trauma I have, I’m not sure I’ll want to give it another try.

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            Ah yeah, the pizza. Those should only be relied on to stop you on bunny hills and in lift lines. Your intuition is right that there’s a limit to how effective those can be.

            Ironically though, the “way to make it easier” is the same technique that snowboarders have little choice but to learn from the start: turn until you’re going across the hill instead of down, because like snowboards, skis only tend to slide down when they point down. Then you make "S"s down the hill to maintain the speed you want, shallow “S” for speed, wide, traversing “S” to stay slow. You can commit to hold a turn until you’re completely sideways and come to complete stop, whether you’re pizzaing or not. No competent instructor would let let their students off the bunny hill until they can turn well enough to control their speed, so I’m really sorry that you found yourself in a situation where you had no control.

            with the trauma I have, I’m not sure I’ll want to give it another try.

            I don’t blame you for not wanting to try again, and I don’t mean to push you to because there’s millions of ways to entertain yourself on this big blue rock. For what it’s worth though, I’ve taught dozens of “first time” lessons where it wasn’t actually their first time, they confessed to me before we started that they tried skiing once years prior, had a bad experience, and only after years and years were convinced by someone they trusted to give it another shot. I’m proud to say that every single one of these students had changed their mind by the end of the lesson. So if you find a good, psia certified instructor and go one-on-one or in a small group, I bet that you’d have better luck. I promise, once it clicks for you that turning=control, the mountain just opens up.

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              Thanks. I appreciate the encouragement. Maybe one day!

              Though even snowboarding I haven’t had the opportunity to go in years. It is pretty boring alone, after all.

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                It is pretty boring alone, after all.

                True, I love skiing and boarding but I have to be with people or I just get bored

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        My instructor told me that if you just relax, you won’t be in control any more, and the board will just slide somewhere. Instead, you need to actively push one of the edges down into the snow. That sort of board rotation requires good balance and strength. If you’re not up for it, you’ll end up loosing your balance, and sort of “falling” gently. No speed required. You can do these gentle falls, and you’ll feel nothing. It’s just that next morning, you’ll suddenly realized how much stress yesterday actually put on your shoulders.

        Turns out, you should never go snowboarding unless you’re already able to stand on your heels and/or toes for an extended period of time. That sort of balancing, endurance and strength is absolutely crucial.

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          Huh. I never had an instructor. But yeah to me standing on my toes or heels for a while isn’t all that hard to me, even though I’m not in good shape. I guess that makes one (1) part of me that’s not critically weak.

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        You can twist to brake with skis too! (hockey stop) :)

        You shouldn’t be exerting too much muscle if you are skiing on relatively unbroken terrain. The only time you really use a lot of leg muscle is in deep, deep, heavy powder, in order to keep your tips up. Or if you are going over huge moguls or bumps at a high rate of speed, using your legs as giant shock absorbers.

        If you have tight boots, sharp ski edges, and a slightly forward stance, your leg muscles shouldn’t tire out very quickly.

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        Yes you can, however it takes a few trips (at least for me) to learn to do that without falling. In the process you will fall a lot and hurt yourself a lot.

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          This is exactly what happened to me. Never really fell in high speeds, because I was always in the easiest slope, so there was no serious impacts. A great number of super slow and gentle impacts do build up over time.

          In my case, the only realistic way to learn is to start very slow and practice very frequently. Like, spend a few weeks doing it, but visit the slopes only 30 minutes at a time every day, maybe even twice a day. Unfortunately, that’s not how ski resorts and vacations work. Looks like several things are fundamentally incompatible with the idea of learning snowboarding.

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        That is true. However, spending one hour is way too much. Maybe something like 20 minutes three times a day for two weeks would be better. That way, the impact stress would be tolerable and necessary muscles would have enough time to grow. Sadly, that sort of thing is fundamentally incompatible with the way vacations and ski resorts work.

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          I learned the basics of snowboarding in an afternoon. Sure there was lots of falling and aches. Protective gear can help a lot though.

          What’s tiring at the beginning is standing up all the time from falling so often. As you fall less often, you don’t need to stand up so often anymore and it becomes less exhausting.

          With increasing skill you also need less muscle power to turn and stop.

          When skiing/snowboarding you probably spend more time sitting in a chairlift than actually riding down the mountain. Then there’s waiting for friends, waiting in line, breaks for eating. I never measured the time, but you might not even get a full hour of pure skiing during a day on the mountain.

          For learning I would recommend to first just go for a weekend and then later the same winter for a week. During the week take one day off for recovery. Some pain and exhaustion will always occur, but that’s just the way it is with any strenuous physical activity. Best practice for preparing to learn snowboarding is to lie on the ground and then stand up repeatedly.