• ItsAFake@lemmus.org
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    9 months ago

    What happens if they write the communist manifesto before any works of Shakespeare?

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    It’s infinite monkeys over infinite time. Yeah, some would get carpel tunnel (an infinite number of them) and some would form labour unions (an infinite number of labour unions). There would be an infinite number of cults, and an infinite number of supreme leaders would rise. You’d have an infinite number of “it’s almost Shakespeare but you got one character wrong”, many more than complete Shakespeare works. And it would increase as you include more and more errors.

    With an infinite amount of monkeys, this would start happening in the minimum amount of time it takes for any of that to happen. You don’t even really need infinite time once you have infinite monkeys, but finite monkeys with infinite time are different because then you have a finite number of outcomes and extinction might arrive before they have a chance to achieve each one.

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    A finite number of monkeys would almost certainly just destroy their finite number of typewriters long before they randomly bashed out anything coherent, let alone Shakespeare. Infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters don’t have that problem though. As long as it doesnt break the laws of physics it would eventually happen, no matter how unlikely it is. That’s the whole point.

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      There aren’t infinite monkeys on reddit. There is Shaekspeare on reddit. Lemmy isn’t any better.

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        Reddit comes pretty close to infinite monkeys with infinite time. Lemmy has just much fewer monkeys.

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      Reddit is less creative than it is distributive. Terrible place for original content, but a reliable location to find reposts of trending material produced elsewhere.

      If you’re looking for a real “10,000 monkeys on typewriters” situation, you’d be better off trolling through Tumblr or DeviantArt or 4chan.

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        It was more of an attempt at a joke. But the comments on reddit are rather close to the infinite monkey situation. While you are absolutely right that 4chan might be even closer. But 4chan is too hardcore for me, so I kind of forgot about it.

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          the comments on reddit are rather close to the infinite monkey situation

          Damn, I wish they were that creative. I feel like there’s maybe 30 different predefined Reddit Comments that just get randomly spat out by a generator ever few minutes.

          But 4chan is too hardcore for me, so I kind of forgot about it.

          Fair. But nothing recreates the experience of a dozen chimps throwing shit at one another like 4chan.

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    I dnn’t know, we might get this gem from the monkeys first “It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.” I would consider that a win even more than the monkey’s forming a very militant labor union.

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      I would think that monkey art, given a surplus of free time, would evolve at the pace of their own lived experiences and accumulated craft skills. Idk if we’d ever get Shakespeare, but we could very well get a more modern and ape-centric take on Planet of the Apes, Curious George, or Bedtime for Bonzo.

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    You don’t actually need infinite time if you have infinite monkeys with typewriters. If the typing is truly random, one of the moneys will type the complete works of Shakespeare on the first try. Or maybe infinitely many will, but then you start having to reason about different sizes of infinity.

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    This raises an interesting question: Do other primates even have the same anatomy to get carpal tunnel? It’s just an inflammation of tissue in a very narrow part of the wrist that puts pressure on a nerve. Do monkies even have the same kind of tissues in the same narrow passage to get inflamed enough that it causes pressure on a nerve that gives mobility issues to their hands?

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    I think they’d be more likely to dismantle and defecate all over the typewriters than they would be to do anything else with them.