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Normally you’d say she was killed by the IDF, or Israel shot and killed an American.
Instead the media makes strong use of passive voice:
Witnesses say Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, 26, was fired at by Israel Defense Forces soldiers positioned in a nearby field
The news loves to focus on individual Israeli hostages and victims by providing backgrounds and what they do for a living, but for the most part just lists Palestinian deaths by numbers and only occasionally includes names or family relationships.
There is one news agency, I think the BBC, which used the phrase “unprecedented attack” to refer to the Oct atrocity that kicked off the current hostilities but doesn’t use any similar phrasing for the IDF killing many times more civilians as a response. So apparently genocide doesn’t need called out in a similar fashion because it is apparently not unprecedented.
They’re not technically wrong at least, the IDF killing civilians has plenty of precedent.
…was fired at…
Gotta love a passive voice so passive that it doesn’t even clarify that she was shot and killed and not merely “fired at”.
IDF soldiers have been seen pulling small levers on handheld devices.
Eygi fell to the ground with blood coming out of her head around the same time.
Could be rephrased as: US puppet military kills its own citizen
I mean. “she was killed by the IDF” is passive voice, no? I think IDF is out of control as much as the next person but passive voice can be communicative and clear as much as active voice. And clearly it’s easy to reach for if you gave it as a counter example accidentally.
The problem is not that they use the passive voice, it’s that they use the passive voice systematically for one side and the active for the other. It’s always “Hamas kills” versus “shot dead by the IDF”, and usually the “by the IDF” part is buried in the article instead of the headline.
I’ve seen reports that just say someone “dies” instead of that the IDF killed them.
Over 20 years ago they ran over US citizen Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer when she protested Israel stealing Palestinian land.
As horrible and disgusting as it is: it’s the same as it ever was.
The US doesn’t even give a damn about it’s own citizens when it comes to Israel.
Hell the US came and joined Israel’s side in a war after the IDF sank the USS Liberty.
Over 20 years ago they ran over US citizen Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer when she protested Israel stealing Palestinian land. As horrible and disgusting as it is: it’s the same as it ever was. The US doesn’t even give a damn about it’s own citizens
when it comes to Israel.Unfortunately this person did not have a western sounding name so there’s going to be even less attention than Rachel’s murder received.
The Israeli government found they did nothing wrong and rejected the suit her parents brought against the state for a symbolic $1 (one US Dolllar).
Par for the course.
Israel also killed US. citizen Jacob Flickinger from world food kitchen in Gaza a few months ago.
And the saddest thing is that if she wasn’t an American citizen this incident would have simply been briefly mentioned in the news without providing a name or a story.
You remember the food kitchen workers and how much noise there were around those killings. But the reality is since the conflict started at least 284 aid workers were killed and no one is talking about it: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde.
I’d argue that assuming they’d even get a passing mention is overly charitable - to your point, look at all the aid workers murdered outside that particular instance that got no reporting… and the fact that people need to be told that they’ve killed hundreds of aid workers and journalists - the most per day of any conflict in history initially.
It’s the same thing with any first world. When one of their citizens are murdered abroad, it makes headlines.
American media loves a pretty dead white girl
Yeah, but with a name like her name, they won’t consider her “white”
Kin selection is still our most wildly popular drug.
Kamala Harris issued a Whitehouse statement condemning Hamas after the body of an American hostage was found last week:
Hamas is an evil terrorist organization. With these murders, Hamas has even more American blood on its hands. I strongly condemn Hamas’ continued brutality, and so must the entire world.
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As Vice President, I have no higher priority than the safety of American citizens, wherever they are in the world.
Will this be the trigger for her to use equally strong language to condemn Israel, who has killed 30 times more people in the ongoing genocide than Hamas? Or will she just reiterate as she did in her recent CNN interview that:
I’m unequivocal and — and unwavering in my commitment to Israel’s defense and its ability to defend itself.
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CNN Reporter: But no change in policy in terms of arms and — and so forth?
No.
Does she care about all Americans, or only those whose deaths justify continuing this genocide?
Shame “genocide Kamala” doesn’t have the same ring, maybe “colonizer Kamala”?
Either way I’m disappointed, I had some hope and refrained from commenting about her for a while, but it’s clear she has zero intention of differing her stance from Biden.
Killer Kamala?
Same. I wanted to believe so badly. I would honestly accept the smallest hint that she was going to be different. Something to tell myself as I pull the lever. But if anything, she is toeing the line even more carefully than she did before.
Does she care about all Americans, or only those whose deaths justify continuing this genocide?
She says what she is told to say
Maybe, just maybe, she wants to get the facts before nuking Israel.
There’s a BIG spectrum between unequivocal support of Israel and nuking it. Right now she’s on one end of the spectrum. No one is asking her to swing to the other.
Right? Fuck… you mentioned facts when it comes to Hamas. See you in down vote hell.
Let’s be honest we don’t really get the facts. It’s propaganda from both sides.
What we do know is Israel’s response has been pure bloodlust and not reasonable in the slightest.
Why is the US so soft on Israel killing US citizens, but so harsh on… anyone else that does it?
I mean, the Saudis did it a few years ago and we really didn’t raise much of a stink.
Great point. Can’t risk our oil interests!
The US makes Billions of dollars annually from Saudi Arabia and Israel, so they don’t care when either of them murder, torture or rape people even when it’s children.
There is also the Abraham Accords. Saudi Arabia was on the way to recognize Israel until October 7 happened.
I mean, y’all raised one hell of a stink about it, in Iraq, and every airport in the world.
I was thinking about Khashoggi, but fair point.
Oof, I’d forgotten about that.
It seem like the “American lives” bit is a front for already having a reason to do something but not wanting to admit it. Thought that’s just normal international diplomacy world wide.
The CNN article got comments from two other people present.
A resident:
Dr. Hisham Dweikat, a resident of Beita who took part in the demonstration, told CNN that as the protest was wrapping up, the Israeli military started firing tear gas towards the crowd.
“As people were running away, live fire was shot and a soldier fired directly at the protesters, hitting the American activist in the head from behind and falling to the ground,” he said.
An American activist:
Eygi was crouched behind a dumpster at the bottom of a hill when gunfire began, Vivi Chen, an American activist who was at the demonstration and who volunteers for Faza’a – another pro-Palestinian group which works in partnership with ISM – told CNN. Chen confirmed Eygi was there with ISM.
“We were all at the bottom of the hill and the Israeli army was at the top,” Chen said. “There were two volunteers sitting behind a dumpster and they fired one shot at the dumpster. It hit a metal plane. And then there was another shot and they shot – they shot her in the head.”
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“They are one of the most advanced armies in the world,” Chen said. “They have weapons from America. It is not an accident that they hit her in the head. That was on purpose. It’s not that they shot a hundred shots at the same time, and she was hit with one. We were all standing still, not moving. Just standing there, and they shot her through the head.”
“They have weapons from America. It is not an accident that they hit her in the head. That was on purpose."
Everyone understands this is bullshit, right, that that’s not how evidence or logic work?
If you just mean the part about advanced weapons from America then I agree with you, it’s nonsense, obviously an accurate rifle can be manufactured anywhere.
The not an accident part has a decent argument. Considering that only a few shots were fired, one hit the dumpster she was hiding behind and one hit her in the head, it seems unlikely it was accidental.
What an anti-semite, she literally came in front of the bullet and then died to make israel look bad.
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Wow you went from victim blaming to, if Israel did it it wasn’t really their fault, to Israel is the victim of this unarmed civilian all in one post.
Great job.
Yes, that kind of consistency in reasoning is because that’s how it actually works there. In truth, and you must know this deep inside, there’s even less evidence for these one liner Al Jazeera headlines about who killed this girl and why, but you have your pitchfork out already. Now you’re chowing down a steady diet of Qatari state media and non profit fundraising emails.
Lmao. Impressive how you try to stay in message in the face of reality.
“Bear witness” is codified language for make your voice heard, but I can see how you don’t understand that applies to people who you don’t assign basic human agency to. What a monstrous comment.
That’s not what it means in Palestine.
In most places it means being a journalist. And Israel did a speed run for the record of journalists killed in war.
JustZ is a kahanist troll and you’re not going to get any reasonable answer from them. Here they’ve made up out of whole cloth an entire theory based on a bad faith interpretation of a common phrase to find a way to blame the victim.
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That’s what the phrase means in Palestinian culture. It’s a verb phrase that means “to become a statistic in the name of the glory of Islam.” Stop trying to romance it up into some epic struggle for human rights. Gaza doesn’t give Gaza human rights. These dead innocents are victims of generations of brainwashing and hopelessness. Despite that, 98% of the Gaza has managed to dodge all the famine campaigns and indiscriminate carpet bombing. I have hope that after Hamas is gone, enough Palestinians may embrace modern human rights like representative government and due process instead of just having an actually far right religious dictatorship and rule by assassination, instead of living in the eighth century but with drones and rocket launchers.
I’m not religious at all. Funny you think I’m a follower of some religious nutjob that I’ve never heard of. Can I assume that there is some other, equally nutty religious psychopath, for whom you’d throw your life away, or that you just think that’s rational behavior? I don’t know. Maybe just stick with “everything that makes me too sad is Zionism.”
That’s what the phrase means in Palestinian culture. It’s a verb phrase that means “to become a statistic in the name of the glory of Islam.”
Got a source for that, or is it just anti-Palestinian bigotry?
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Removed, civility.
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Report them and we’ll take a look.
I have to assume this was written by an Antisemitic troll to deliberately make Israelis look bad, because the alternative is you thinking this was going to convince somebody.
And holy shit, that’s some martyrdom behavior.
Then why is Israel helping them? It is, after all, quite true that Israel has refused to stop settlement activity in the West Bank. Seems like a great way to cause protests, and then responding with a shoot first, ask questions later mentality will lead to a lot of martyrs. Are you accusing the Israeli government of being in league with Hamas?
Nobody uses the phrase “bear witness” that way and rolling it into a racist screed like this earns you a ban.
Whats it like to be insanely wrong about the world. Is it nice? They say ignorance is bliss I bet you are pissing bliss.
The Israeli soldiers seem to be murderers and killers who shoot wildly at the slightest provocation. They probably deliberately escalated this protest too.
Israel is a fascist regime that should face harsh sanctions.
The IDF is just ABAC on steroids.
If you’re referring to ACAB, many police departments are trained by Israel.
Yes, and the fact that they keep finding US police black sites suggest they are also taking notes from the CIA.
I think a more sensible nation than the US would freeze shipments to israel until a full investigation was concluded.
Not only does failing to react to this give Israel free reign to murder US citizens, but it also says the US probably won’t make any effort to protect any americans abroad.
US’s foreign policy is about as sensible as their gun laws.
And as grim.
Don’t worry, the IDF will investigate themselves and (yet again) find no deliberate wrongdoing but maybe admit that ‘regrettable mistakes’ were made. This legal fig leaf is required so that an actually independent judiciary cannot enforce international law.
Article 17 of the Rome Statute allows the ICC to step in and exercise jurisdiction where states are unable or unwilling genuinely to investigate or prosecute
As long as there’s some form of judicial action by an Israeli court, the IDF can push everything under the rug and get away with what they please.
The ICC is already exercising jurisdiction.
Edit: Know nothings downvoting this bc of their feelings.
It’s fighting an uphill battle.
The US is doing everything it can to stonewall, and statements it made regarding it being dumbfounded that the ICC can also prosecute its allies, and that it’s not just a weapon to use against its enemies, reeks of colonialist hubris.
I wonder if Kamala or anyone in the white house will talk about this? They won’t because they’re owned by CUFI/AIPAC
I’m not sure she’s owned by them. But pissing them off in an incredibly close election is not wise. Unfortunately their money dump on tight progressive primaries had exactly the effect they wanted. “Talk about Israel during the campaign and we dump tens of millions in strategic states and demographics.”
So we’re not likely to see her true position on that until November 5th.
When a group gives millions to a campaign that’s a quid pro quo, the candidate will do what they want when elected. There’s no chance Kamala will change her stance on Nov 5th because the cash will still be flowing
Eh, that’s not totally true. There’s no formal contract, a politician can absolutely take the money but not give them anything. That’s how they keep it from being bribery. But also, when you’re talking about the really influential groups, it’s seen as better to just take their money and keep quiet until you have to publicly do something.
So there is absolutely a chance. It’s not a guarantee, but it’s not nothing either.
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Lmao you guys waited 80 years to become nazis
Enjoy that dogshit legacy
He (Ben Gvir) has a long history of anti-Arab activism leading to dozens of indictments and at least eight convictions of crimes including incitement to racism, possession of propaganda for a terrorist organization (the now illegal political party Kach) and support for a terrorist organisation (also Kach).[9] As a lawyer, he is known for defending Jews accused of Jewish extremist terrorism on trial in Israel.[10]
At least OP knows it, I guess.
Did you say the same thing about Ashli Babbitt?
