Or: “Men buying women’s hygiene products, because they exist.”
It’s really hard for me to find some stuff at all.
The only women’s bath product I really see a difference with is those jarred creams with abrasive material in them (like strawberry seeds or sugar; not micro plastic beads). They’re the only thing aside from Lava brand hand soap that actually exfoliates my skin so I don’t have weird hard spots of gunk in my pores along the outside of my thighs. My ass is so, so smooth now.
I’m right there with you, but instead I use Castile soap and a exfoliating washcloth.
Can also vouch for shae butter + walnut shells. One of my friends makes them for fun and they leave you smooooth. Might not be good for pores though, especially for oily skinned folks. I’m basically 50% paper man, so I need all the moisture I can get.
Also gotta be careful with oils in the bathtub/shower. They leave the floor deadly slick.
50% paper 🤣 I understand this. My body is a desert.
Pink crap or blue crap, it’s all crap.
High quality stuff is marketed based on quality, it’s not sexed for no fucking reason.
Fire Procter and Gamble into the sun, they do nothing of value for the world.
Switched from using Old Spice Body Wash (RIP Krakengard) to Dove beauty bars and showers have become infinitely more pleasant. It feels good to apply, it smells like oatmeal and rice milk, and it always gets the stank off my nuts and ass the first time, unlike body wash.
Sometimes I buy womens soap because it doesn’t make me choke. If I can’t find soap that doesn’t smell like I’m swallowing razorblades then i’m going for the womans soap. Luckily I haven’t been faced with that situation recently.
I like the ones that are just tea tree or sandalwood scented, I don’t need to smell like I bathed an axe body spray, and it works for both genders. (As if we actually need a different body wash lol)
Right?? Like I only use the ““male”” products when I’m showering in the morning (which is rare), because I don’t want to be smelling extra hetero moose joose maxxlather in my beard as I’m trying to get all cozy wozy for beddy bye time.
So that’s my story about why I have a men’s face wash from two Christmases ago that is barely used.
Higher quality is questionable
When it comes to cosmetics I thought it’s the other way around because men who will buy cosmetics are generally higher earners or something like that, so they’re generally willing to pay more.
I think this meme is talking about women using men’s razors and men using women hair products specifically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok makes sense. Thanks.
There’s no need for any of that. There’s plenty of higher-end grooming products marketed to both men and women, or even gender neutral, that can be purchased nowadays. And yes, if the price point is your greatest concern, it’s a factor to consider. But shaving brands for men such as Proraso is great quality for the price point. Why more people settle for brands like Gillette when there are better products on the market at or even lower in price is beyond me.
Why more people settle for brands like Gillette when there are better products on the market at or even lower in price is beyond me.
But I’m not legally allowed to buy anything better than Gillette. I’ve been told that Gillette is “the best a man can get™” so I’m kinda stuck with it.
Can you give me some recommendations?
Depends. Are you looking for the best on the market, or are you looking for quality while still considering price?
But then what am I to do with all of these DUDE WIPES?
Flush them at your frienemy’s house.
Their faces make this so funny
Somebody should have done their makeup at a higher quality.
At wal mart: “blue Equate brand men’s loofah $2” “blue Equate brand women’s loofah $1”
That’s not how this is supposed to work.
Me buying Dettol™ Soap and calling it a day.
Women’s razors are far superior to men’s razors
The best solution is the cheapest. Get a good quality safety razor and disposable double edged blades. Much less waste and the best shave.
Do we have any wetshaving communities on Lemmy yet or are they still only on Reddit?
There is at least one. I’m not entirely sure how to link it, but it’s this one:
Sub.wetshaving.social
Haven’t seen any.
That’s what I thought. Wanted to check anyway. Guess I’ll check out some forums in the mean time.
enjoy.
If you need something to arouse you from your lethargy, try an old show called ‘Penny Dreadful.’ Eva Green and Timothy Dalton versus Dracula. Fun
I remember hearing about it years ago. Will check it out.
This is true but it has a learning curve and you shouldn’t shave your face with these unless you’re willing to accept that you might accidentally get some small scars from nicks
If you’re getting scars from shaving nicks, you scar very easily or you shaved off a mole.
I scar very easily lol
Boo
I’ve been shaving with one for years and have never nicked myself more than I would have with a normal razor. It’s really nothing to be afraid of. The only way to really cut yourself would be to slide “with” the blade across your face, like you’re slicing. Otherwise it’s honestly harder to cut yourself compared to a cartridge razor.
I have never nicked myself with a cartridge razor whether I shave wet or dry, even with sloppy technique. I have 5 safety razors of varying design and thickness and about 100 brands of cream and blades, and I have to be careful with them or they leave gashes on my face. I have a very sharp chin with basically no body fat so that might contribute to it.
100 brands? One hundred ??
No, I’m being hyperbolic, about 15 sample packs in my cabinet right now and tried a few more previously. Feather are the best in my experience.
The only scar I have in my face is when my brother closed a glass door on me, and I have been shaving with a safety razor for years now. Sure, it takes a bit to get used to, but that’s with anything new.
Have I nicked myself? Yes, once or twice, a few months in, when I got a bit too cavalier about shaving with it (it’s still a sharp blade). But it didn’t leave a scar.
I just want to smell like something other than tree, cold tree, or beach episode tree.
What about sea salt & gunpowder? Someone might question your masculinity and sexual orientation otherwise!
Hear me out, gunpowder and ozone so you smell like what astronaut say space smells like.
Ahh, you are a manly man and ready for Duke Cannon Naval Supremacy bar soap or perhaps Victory! is more for you.
***Google Duke Cannon for an amusing marketing strategy of men’s products. Who doesn’t want a Big Ass Bar of Soap?
One day I plan to enter the cologne phase of life but it hasn’t happened yet. I like smells but I don’t like mall shopping.
I’d prefer not to have any smell, but that is apparently really hard to do.
And why do all products for men have to look like I’m cosplaying a sci-fi tactical commando?
Same reason “gamer” PC peripherals all look like Gigatron’s nut sack.
I found that out when I had an allergy skin patch test and found out one of the things I’m sensitive too is fragrance. The most important thing was finding a hair dye that I’m not allergic too but after 10 years, I’m starting to get a little itchy when I get my hair done.
I assume having no smell is really hard to do and to cover up the slight chemical smell they put a stronger smell over it. That being said I am definitely not a deodorant taste tester so 🤷♀️
… this makes me slightly suspicious that you are, in fact, a deodorant taste tester.
Mmm push pops
I have persistent skin issues (psoriasis) and most specialized products are unscented.
This may be the singular upside to this situation ^^`
You are not alone. I have bad eczema and my wife has psoriasis as well and all of our care products are mostly scent free. At this point I think I’d rather not smell like sandalteakvanilla beach wood lol
I also prefer to have no smell, speed stick makes a unscented deodorant and I have a scentless body wash, havent found a good shampoo yet though. Just using head and shoulders.
How about tree chopped into firewood?
Sawdust, yes.
Idle firewood loitering, no.
Burning tree bones, yes.
Vanilla cookies, fuck yes.I don’t like wanting to eat myself constantly
Well hello there!
Building furniture out of oak, being in and around that much white oak sawdust and shavings, made me smell like an empty bourbon bottle.
My old job also made me smell like an empty whiskey bottle, but it was an office.
So many companies are dumb and only advertise to women on products that can be used for everyone.
They’re not dumb, marketing towards woman is just more effective
Just saying as a guy in my 20s I never thought I could use all those products till I got married. Never thought of it
I judge my body wash on the basis of if it can clean my antiperspirant off by the end of the day. (Shower at night before bed). Many men’s body wash require you to do a lot to get it to clean… Tried a seasonal pomegranate something one aimed at women one time and it smelled great and I hardly had to do anything more than just apply it. Win win. Then I never found it again. Dove products are cheap usually near me, some are terrible, some are amazing. I’m sure if I was smarter I’d read the ingredients and figure out what works best and verify it was in the new product, but maybe I’ll leave that for next year.
Just use regular non-antiperspirant deodorant. Anti-perspirant is bad for you and for your skin. It just forces your body to try even harder to sweat through it on top of the questionable chemistry. If you have a particular issue with the stank, just keep some with you or keep it at work to re-up. Not only will your armpits thank you, but so will your shirts. You can do that or keep using harsh chemicals for your armpits, harsh chemicals to get their residue off, and go through clothing like it’s toilet paper—or give your body the chance it hasn’t had since puberty to maybe cool off a bit. Give it a whirl.
I don’t know what anti perspirants you’ve been using, but Rituals ones don’t stain or leave residue on any of my clothes.
Yeah nah, i think I’ll stick to my antiperspirants. Having to spray periodically seems inconvenient
The rule is buy the default-gendered variant. If there a special “men’s section” or “women’s section” for a certain product category it means you’ll be ripped off.
Especially women’s. In French we call it “la taxe rose” (the pink tax).
Now men’s products have a “for men” or “tactical” tax where they strap fake MOLLE on something that really doesn’t need it.
it’s called pink tax in English too
I mean unless it’s a more expensive product marketed to men, in which case it’s called an example of fragile masculinity.
I call it the Axe Tax
I think that’s brilliant
i don’t get the connection
the French have such a way with words, that’s almost as good as “le cigarette will cause le cancer”
Not sure I appreciate the irony. But you’re correct that it sounds very similar in french.
One could say: “la cigarette va causer le cancer” although that sounds very “english” and is probably what someone who learnt french knowing english would say. The more “fluent” way would be “fumer peut mener au cancer”. But both are technically correct.
Thanks for the lesson, friend!
Damn, I wasn’t expecting my daily French lesson yet here I am. I love this place man.
🍺 Cheers my friend.
Santé :)
Quand aux français, ils disent “fumer tue”.
plutôt ce qui est écrit sur le paquet, mais ouais.
Je pense que c’est devenue naturel au point que la phrase nous vienne naturellement à la bouche pour parler des conséquences de la cigarette. Après tout, elle tue par le cancer, pas par accident de la route ou overdose.
I am so upset that the French cigarette meme lied to me
Men’s socks are higher durability
It’s a lot more than socks. Went looking for a duffel coat once for work and checked both isles in stores. Mens coat - nice woven and well fulled 100 percent wool, thick quality stuff, Women’s isle, cheaper felted wool half the thickness… Same price, same basic style, same store.
Ever since whenever I go looking for stuff I check both isles. Higher quality fabrics are generally reserved for men’s items though women’s stuff is priced the same. You’d never know the difference if you only shopped one gendered option.
Off-topic comment.
I appreciate the misuse of isle instead of aisle. The mental imagery of navigating around stores compromised of isles makes me want to go shopping so I can go on an island hopping adventure looking for booty to haul back to my kingdom.
It could be highly inconvenient, since the Isle of Mann and Isla Mujeres are so far apart.
Apart from fashionistas, “standard” men’s style is far more static. Cuts, materials, colors, and patterns don’t deviate far from the baseline from year to year, so garments tend to be a bit sturdier and longer lasting.
As an example, picture a guy in a Henley, cargo shorts, and work boots. What decade is he from? Okay, now put him in straight leg jeans and a flannel shirt. Was this picture taken yesterday? In the 90s? 2005? Who knows, guys have been wearing that for ages, and will be for ages to come.
However, pre-pandemic I think high-waist flares were one of the main jeans trends for women. Five years later, it’s low-waist straight-leg, right? Or have they shifted back to skinny jeans? I think early-2010s was the last time capris were the statement look, but hell, I truly don’t know. The point is, women’s styles seem to change not only year-to-year but season-to-season. Today’s trend is tomorrow’s faux pas is next week’s retro is next month’s vintage… sure, I’m exaggerating, but women’s fashion does lend itself more to sweeping change.
The criminal part is that woman-specific options are underconstructed and overpriced compared to men’s clothing. That, and the lack of pockets. Seriously, my heart goes out to anyone who wears clothing targeted to women. I’d be fucking lost without pockets.
The criminal part is that woman-specific options are underconstructed and overpriced compared to men’s clothing. That, and the lack of pockets. Seriously, my heart goes out to anyone who wears clothing targeted to women. I’d be fucking lost without pockets.
Trans girl who sews her own clothing here: I’ve honestly stopped bothering to add pockets to my clothes, because my handbag has REALLY grown on me and takes care of most of the need. Seeing all the guys doing pocket-checks, when I just grep my handbag and have everything in it is almost getting funny at this point. 😊
That said: Fuck the fashion industry, for so many reasons, including for what they did to fashion! Like: Even if we ignored all the human-rights abuses, the trash quality that they produce, the needlessly bad impact on the environment and all of these things, and we really shouldn’t(!!), I just assume most people here have already heard about those, that industry still has no fucking idea of what personal style is and how to support it. It’s a bunch of business-assholes that decide that some thing X is “in” and then you get only that, with the difference between X and the previous X being minute details in the cut, but it still remains the same concept of short, narrow skirt for example.
You are looking for a ankle-length circle-skirt (=flat lying skirt, very wide)? Tough luck, sew it yourself, nobody offers that! You want a long dress with long sleeves? Yeah, that doesn’t exist! (Unless you sew it yourself, like I have, which gave me the most comfortable piece of nightwear I’ve ever owned that I’m even somewhat comfortable to wear in public if I add a visual seperation with some form of belt.) I could go on…
In short: The fashion industry has sold people on the insane idea that jeans with a slightly different cut are a different clothing-style. They are not!
I suppose that assumes a woman cares about fashion and that fast fashion is something every woman wants to buy into. A lot of women I know shop vintage because they want items they can wear reliably for years and modern items do not offer that level of quality. If you want to buy out of the fast fashion assumption of “need” it seems like you have to literally go back in time because if you buy fast fashion it is literally trash in a year. Nobody will thrift it worn because it will be worn out. It doesn’t seem like brands have options for women that lie outside of this system in addition to those junky options or offer those junk items at a lower cost. If all you can buy new is junk then stepping outside of the system requires you to avoid the ease of simply buying new off the rack. It requires work and luck. If you grew up inside that system that’s your established normal.
We can say that mens fashion is static… But why can’t both gendered fashion silos have more static options or at least price fast fashion at a different price point to reflect those cheaper materials? It seems like saying one sex has inherent requirements for fubgibillity which seems honestly kinda sexist. There’s a lot of men who want more interesting fad like stuff and women who want staples that will last a decade.
Oh, I full-on agree, hence that final paragraph. I’m one of those idgaf-about-fads types, but I know plenty of folks who do care and who get hosed by the system as it currently exists. Fashion as a whole is pretty much a racket as far as I’m concerned. But what isn’t these days?
The reason they won’t price fast fashion bs lower is because they don’t have to. Trendy things sell at inherently predatory price points, then they declare a new “what’s hot” before the sales drop off. Capitalism is a mfer, and folks are exploited at every rung of the fashion ladder.
I guess that would change if enough people stopped buying in, but do either of us see that happening any time soon? I don’t, and as frustrating as it is, I think you don’t, either. So garments marketed primarily to women remain pocketless and flimsy, and those marketed primarily to my-tastes-don’t-change men continue to trend towards work-wearish looks that are at least marginally sturdier at roughly equivalent cost.
Except for those goddamn fishing shirts. Who decided that was a thing? They’re terrible.
From my experience all of mens clothes have higher durability. I could just be buying shitty clothes, but ill have ripped stitches and fallen buttons a week after purchase while my husband is still sporting the same 15 year old wardrobe with minimal damage. My shirts are so thin i can see clear through them and would need to layer 3 to match my husband’s shirts. I dont purchase them off amazon/temu/etc, but it feels like that’s where they came from most of time.
