Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez urged countering the Trump administration’s policies by resisting at every turn, arguing that its incompetence makes it vulnerable.

Her remarks followed chaos caused by a rescinded executive order that temporarily shut down Medicaid portals nationwide.

She encouraged activists to take offline action, citing ongoing mobilization efforts.

Her strategy focuses on making governance difficult for Trump, calling his administration “dangerous and cruel” but also “shockingly dim.”

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    Basically, resist. Do not comply in advance. Make them fire you. Challenge that firing in court.

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    I would love to start something in my city, and I’ve already been trying, but it’s hard to get people to mobilize. It’s disheartening at the very least. Any ideas on how I can be helpful to my country aside from voting?

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    He is definitely confused, weak and incompetent, backed by confused, weak and incompetent Republicans.

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    I just hope she comes out of this unscathed. It only takes one loon with a shiv… and now there’s millions of 'em.

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      I thought this was obvious to everyone. Heck, Futurama had this as a joke 20 years ago when Zapp Brannigan stuffed his crew with nothing but loyalists who fall apart immediately.

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        That was much more “chain of command is incompetent but we have no choice but to obey” rather than “blind loyalty”. Did you forget the episode where he was dishonorably discharged by the DOOP for blowing up the space station with the ribbon cutting laser? His second in command, Kiff, is literally constantly pointing out how stupid and incompetent Zapp is. Hell, even “I sent wave after wave of my own men against the killbots until their counter overflowed”, arguably the worst case of being a loyalist to Zapp, ended in a win for Earth. They didn’t fall apart and collapse - they defeated the unstoppable killbot army and got a medal(show them the medal Kiff).

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    It isn’t chump and his taintsuckers you gotta worry about.

    It’s the army of Federalist Society lawyers and policy experts around him. They’ve spent decades figuring out the removed in the armor of our governmental system. Figuring out how to dismantle it piece by piece.

    Edit - wtf is that removed about? Wait…oh. bot thinks I did a racism.

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      Ha. Reminds me of an Asian standup comedian who had this routine about how he grew up in the inner city where the basketball nets were made of chains and so the chains didn’t go ‘swish,’ they went ‘chіnk.’ So when guys wanted to play basketball, they said, “let’s go shoot us up some chіnk.”

      Thank you, Cyrillic letter і, for letting me bypass the bot to tell that joke. Because I’ve remembered that joke for years.

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              I really need someone to explain all the random marxist leninists bogey-man bigotry that happens on this site at some point. Like this is a completely weird-o comment, about a political ideology that’s effecting a word filter for possible rascism? and on .world people still label it marxist?!

              I’m aware there is deep historical connotations which I haven’t spent years researching so I try not to defend or participate but it feels like since people push back against “instance hating”, we’ve gotta pour on any political hatred we could possibly see in the shadows. I’m just gonna assume this is another bad faith comment striking up fear and hatred till I learn otherwise.

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                  They’re asking what automod removing an out of context word has to do with marxism/ leninism. This kind of error can happen on any instance that automatically removes slurs, and that particular one isnt exactly commonly used either way.

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                  .ml is Mali and marxist-leninists tend to use .ml as their hosting domain of choice the way that a lot of Generative AI domains are hosted in Anguilla because of the .ai domain.

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                  Am I still missing something? This is posted on the instance of .world, wtf are we talking about .ml and politics for? If your instance filters your comments on other instances than that’s concerning and something I didn’t know.

                  edit: removed the sarcasm in the hopes someone actually responds to what the problem is.

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      Fucken hell, that’s the correct fucking way to define a gap in armor. Bullshit. I really want to try a bunch of slurs out and see what sets it off.

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        I really want to try a bunch of slurs out

        This is surely the most rational reaction to being slightly inconvenienced by a word filter.

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          Anyone else remember Neopets? They had a filter that was extreme and multilingual. I can’t count how many times I’d write a friendly message, the filter would block it, and I would end up editing chunks of text trying to avoid whatever word or series of letters the filter thought was inappropriate. Sometimes it’d be a few letters embedded in another word (like “associate” being banned for the letters a s s.) But sometimes, I was truly stumped. The only explanation I can think of is that some letters in English words matched up to swears in other languages.

          Anyway, fun fact - I met my first boyfriend through that site. We decided to see how dirty we could talk while still getting messages past the filter. We used innuendos, slang, and other turns of phrase with each other just to see what we could get away with.

          In the end, all that filter did was make us more creative at communicating forbidden topics. Whoops ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

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          SEE WHAT YOU’RE MAKING ME DO? NOW I HAVE TO SAY THE N WORD… I DON’T WANT TO BUT YOU GAVE ME NO CHOICE!

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              “What if I come up with an entirely fictitious, nigh-impossible combination of circumstances to try and corner you into accepting my racial prejudice?”

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                also the answer is yes. Just because it’s a last wish doesn’t make it okay. it’s not like you can wish to do crimes for example.

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        Wait until you try the in-game chat in Rocket League. You can’t even type “Discord”. It’s a banned word. 🤡

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          I must be a classy enlightened centrist since I have never had my words removed.

          Entire comments removed & bans, on the other hand…

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          Jebus. I still haven’t figured out if .ml is government funded or true believers. Very strange to me.

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            It’s the home instance of the founders of Lemmy, who are communists. I don’t know their views on authoritarian communism like Stalin or Mao, but people who thought these were good leaders are the “tankies” you may have heard of. There are a lot of them on .ml.

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              I’ve basically only ran into 90% left wing, sporadic sprinklings of conservative, tankie, liberal, other. “A lot of them” is pulling extra weight here.

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    “Tyranny is eroded by a sea of small acts. Everything matters.”

    A lot of Lemmy users really need to understand this. Far too often I see people deride any action that doesn’t immediately fix all problems in the world as worthless or meaningless, simply because they lack the imagination needed to see how small actions can add up to big changes.

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      Even if the actions really do nothing, they get people active and organized, so that they can take more effective actions later on.

      I honestly think a lot of this criticism is people’s internalized rationalization for why they themselves don’t take action.

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      Well, they focused on one issue and ignored the convicted rapist insurrectionist in the room.

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      I strongly disagree. As in all things, you need to pick your battles.

      It’s absolutely possible to take a counter productive action with the best of intentions.

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      That’s true, but it can also be used in reverse as a pacifying mechanism. For example, contributing to making the US the most incarcerated population in the world with ridiculously strict “tough on crime” legislation and then pardoning a small fraction of prisoners. Another example is forcing student loan debt to stick around through bankruptcy, but then forgiving a tiny fraction of loans. It’s a move to pretend change is in motion, but it’s so small and so slow that it’s never going to actually solve the problem. This is especially bad when the other party makes such huge moves in the negative direction while we’re supposed to be content with tiny steps toward “progress”.

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        What is this pacifying people from, do you imagine?

        Like, let’s say Trump gives the order to disband all DEI committees everywhere, and a lot of people who like theirs resist the order to do so at every turn. Malicious compliance, straight-up refusal, sleight of hand. This pacifying resistance means they won’t…?

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      Incrementalism got us here. At some point, you have to realize that you can’t stop a flash flood by bailing with a solo cup and shouting “I’m helping!”

      It’s a stalling tactic to placate chumps while they sell us all out.

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        The difference being that the incrementalism was outsourced to elected officials. What I understand that sentence to mean to say is that it needs every one of you who is able to do anything of any magnitude. It adds up. And like kattfisk says, you get active and organized. You have more power than you think and democracy is more than just drawing a few crosses in a box every few years.

        I mean, who is going to do it if not you? What have the heroes from the Democratic party been up to since the peaceful transition of power? Some of the Dem senators voted for many of Trumps catastrophic picks. In a time where the White House is flooding the zone (as Steve Bannon put it some time ago), Shumer is giving speeches on the senate floor, that no one is listening to and Dem leadership is scheduling emergency meetings for after the reason for the meeting goes into effect. Finally AOC shows some kind of leadership and calls upon all of you to mobilize and resist fascism and you react with “it’s a stalling tactic”? Please realize that you want the same thing. But if you want a mass movement, you will need to be organized on a smaller scale first or else it will fizzle out quickly.

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          Finally AOC shows some kind of leadership and calls upon all of you to mobilize and resist fascism and you react with “it’s a stalling tactic”?

          AOC is not calling for incrementalism.

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            AOC is not calling for incrementalism.

            That’s what I’m saying. Because neither did the user you replied to. They didn’t call for politicians to take small steps over time, but for everyone to take action so it adds up. Big difference.

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              Because neither did the user you replied to. They didn’t call for politicians to take small steps over time, but for everyone to take action so it adds up.

              No, they just misrepresented the position of people who are sick if incrementalism for the sake of sliding right:

              Far too often I see people deride any action that doesn’t immediately fix all problems in the world as worthless or meaningless

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          This is like not believing in macro evolution.

          Ever hear of punctuated equilibrium?

          Actually, I think a lack of incrementalism got us here. We incremented in the wrong direction.

          Sure is neat how Republicans get to do what they want all at once but we need decades of baby steps and half measures.

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            The Republicans only get to push things this far after decades of baby steps and half measures to get there. Things like getting fox news going, getting to draw congressional districts, slowly getting courts set up to let their movements work, working smaller representative races to get a foothold, facing a rejection as they tried to go all out with the tea party. Finally their preparation has a house, Senate, supreme Court, that was ready and willing to enable this effort.

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              So, what were Democrats doing while all this was going on? What was their celebrated incrementalism setting up?

              Because it looks to me like they spent all this time moving to the right, incrementally of course.

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                The whole “If the Democrats don’t immediately and completely do everything I want I’m not going to participate at all” is a self-fulfilling philosophy.

                On the republican side, when the larger party was “too far to the left”, they didn’t just throw up their hands, they worked at it, slogging away at the relatively less glamorous task of mucking about within the framework of their party, getting small victories and parlaying them to broader victories and preparation to have their time when the ground was ready. But the entire time supporting the party closest to what they wanted while they worked things even as the party failed to move as far as they wanted. All the time learning lessons on how to advance even the parts of their agenda that kept getting rejected even by their own party. They were clowns, mocked, too ridiculous to really be feared, but they were ultimately pragmatic and as a result, here they are…

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    finally, a person with a STRATEGY. so sick of the whining.

    she needs volunteers for personal escort and safety. i think she is going to be targeted.

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        Does smashing your head against the podium give you gauges? Cause he clearly doesn’t have anything missing (except for intelligence, compassion, and empathy) and they wouldn’t release the medical record, so the likelihood he was hit or grazed by the bullet is IMO is slim to none.

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    Any kind of on the ground movement or mobilization needs political support in the halls of power. It’s what made the resistance demonstrated against Trump the first term possible, and the dynamic goes both ways. On the ground resistance gives political actors the space to be resilient. Resilient politicians give in the ground movement space to work.

    Basically all other Democrats other than Bernie and AOC shrivelling up and hiding in their shells will have a chilling effect on our ability to organize on the ground.

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      I’ve been bitching about the lack of leadership from the Democrats for a while now - I’m glad to see that others are seeing it too.

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          I made a comment recently going through the list of the campaign advisors for Harris which included;
          mostly C-suite executives, advisors for the richest peoples trust funds and literally a representative from New Orleans who had to step down after it was discovered he was the top recipient for bribes from the oil industry but is still apparently a great choice for directly advising the DNC.

          It’s not just one person it’s the whole of the DNC that’s like this. They bow to decorum while underhandedly stuffing their pockets with cash just like the Republicans. They just want it to look professional while they do it.

          They need to give a shit about others and the average citizen not just see this as their rightful place to make money because they deserve it for being better connected. That’s why we are in this mess.

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          LBJ at least pushed for laws, he helped convince white senators to vote for the Civil Rights Act. I think if we had a second LBJ, we’d have something done.

          …I’d rather not have a new VIetnam war if that was the case, however.

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      Heinrich from NM has made it clear that he will pushback. Let’s see what that looks like. I suggest folks that can contact your reps, now and frequently.

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        Every day I have sent mine a note from the contact form on their pages. Angrily

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          Don’t use the contact form or send an email. Call them. Even better, show up in person if possible. The contact form can be filled out from anywhere by anything, same as sending an email. Calling at least lets them know an actual person, likely a local voter, holds the views expressed and is more memorable and harder to ignore. Showing up in person even more so.

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      It’s funny. sounds like you’re giving up already, and blaming the Dems.

      You got Bernie and the Squad.

      If you want to put some backbone in the Dems in office, go out and start a voter registration drive. Let them see that there are people who will support them.

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        start a voter registration drive

        What? The time for a voter registration drive was a year ago. We’re well past that now. You can’t vote out a dictator.

        It’s time for more direct action. We need protests. We need strikes. We need people in the streets fighting for their rights because they’re being taken away by the day.

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          Speaking only for myself, it’s because peepee poopoo.

          But for a more serious and less cringe-attempt of a response, I know that when I joined the Reddit API exodus, I initially tried to make an account on .world. I sent a few applications without response over a couple of weeks, then tried signing up for beehaw (because I’m from Texas and I thought the name was cute). Finally, I found some article that said that lemm.ee was doing quick or immediate approvals and just went with it. When my friends mentioned similar difficulties, I told them about lemm.ee, too.

          I find it so rare to see contributions from other .ee users, but I’ll take your word for it that we suck. I’m willing to believe that.

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            I think I’m the only one that never bothers to look at someone’s domain, and just approach all posters on equal footing instead of relying on some weird sectarian nonsense based on what website they found that has decent up time and open registration…

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            lemm.ee has one of if not the best admin, and was always running more smoothly in earlier versions. More than that, when other bugs were taking out .world and many others, lemm.ee was already immune and the admin helped the other instances sort theirs out too. lemm.ee has a lot of good users.

            However, when hexbear was banned, users on that instance started moonlighting on other instances. There were very few instances that were still federated with hexbear but also with the others, where all the conversation was - many wanted one account that could browse both. Several went to lemmy.ml, the instance run by the formal lemmy developers, and there was a noticeable shift in user behaviour from the instance. But lemm.ee never really was targeted by the hexbear brigading that led to their defederation with everyone else, perhaps because lemm.ee doesn’t really have any massive communities itself, not as big as the others.

            So yeah, lemm.ee can still browse hexbear, and with that you get a sizeable chunk of their userbase spilling over. So some lemm.ee users do indeed suck. It’s not as bad as .ml, though, and I think that’s in no small part thanks to the lemm.ee admin team keeping the more extremist users in check.

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              Thanks for that! I’ll have to mostly take your word for it.

              Except for the .ml part. What on Earth is going on over there???

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                The two devs themselves are massive tankies. They also run lemmygrad.

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              Sorry, but this sounds like a completely unhinged attempt to blame hexbear for everything that goes wrong anywhere.

              The post from Dagwood222 that UnderpantsWeevil was complaining about couldn’t have been more completely opposite to the usual hexbear take. When is the last time that any hexbear user defended democrats like Dagwood222 did?

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                The statement was

                What is it about the lemm.ee domain that produces accounts with the most cringe, awful takes?

                Now, I wouldn’t say that’s really appropriate here, Dagwood222’s comment above that wasn’t cringe nor awful. However, apparently UnderpantsWeevil already has this perception of lemm.ee users, and hexbear users making up a chunk of the userbase is my explanation for that.

                No one ever really spoke bad of lemm.ee users before the hexbear defederations, and it was a clear echo of the complaints about lemmy.ml users that also started at the same time. It’s just a bandwagon/circlejerk, really; a cheap way of getting upvotes from other users not on those instances that only has a pinch of truth. But that pinch is what I was describing.

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              So enlighten me. Did you have a better plan in 2024? Somethings besides voting? What’s your sure-fire winning strategy that you didn’t use yet?

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                Who’s talking about voting as resistance, besides you? There’s a conversation to be had about it sure, but it’s not the conversation being had now, here. You trying to shift the focus to a subject you’re comfortably confident about discussing is why you’re being criticized, not for the merit of what you’re saying on its own.

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        Understanding and recognizing how the world functions isn’t equivalent to giving up. Nor is “hope” for the sake of hope any kind of a strategy. And yes. The Dem’s are the fucking problem and always have been. Nothing about this fascist takeover would have ever been possible with out the complicity and milquetoast politics of Democrats. They are a worthless and abhorrent party with no integrity and barely worth supporting, beyond the weakest possible argument of them being the “lessor” evil. The rise of fascism would be impossible with out the previous 30 years of normalization politics out of Democrats. Start a voter registration drive? Give me a fucking break with the navel gazing. Voting isn’t going to save the Union.

        We may need the squad to break away from a Democratic party that has shown its self incapable of wielding power in such a way as to prevent the rise of fascism. What we’ll need for on the ground movements to be successful is support in some way from the halls of power. That doesn’t necessarily mean working with Democrats.

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            The moderates that tolerate fascists and thus enable them are always the problem, actually. The fascists fail without them but succeed with them, every time.

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                My comment didn’t even slightly say anything even remotely resembling that, and you fucking know it. Quit commenting in bad faith.

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                  It did, though. Or at least the message you’re presenting seems to indicate that.

                  The moderates that tolerate fascists and thus enable them are always the problem, actually.

                  I’m fairly sure you phrased it like this as a retort to the first commenter’s comment, but you gotta see how insisting the blame ‘actually’ lies with the moderates and the people enabling the fascists is pretty clearly interpretable as shifting the responsibility. Both parties are to blame, but you’re implying that the bulk of the criticism lies with the people being passive about allowing the fascist takeover instead of with the people exploiting the resource they’ve found in moderates by doing the fascism.

                  Dems didn’t get their shit together and exploit the moderates first to prevent this, but while that does make them culpable for the current fascist power grab, it does not make them equally culpable, and that is the position you seem to be presenting.

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            Maybe learn like, even a tiny bit about the history of fascism and how it comes into being and how it takes power.

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            Honestly, it would be a lot easier to do a hostile takeover of the Green Party. If Democrats are so damned worried about splitting the vote, they don’t have to field a candidate. It’s not like they are interested in fielding one that can win anyway.

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          Who is this ‘we’ you speak of?

          I really wanted Bernie in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Somehow ‘we’ managed not to get out and get him nominated.

          But now, somehow, ‘we’ are going to get organized.

          Until ‘we’ shows me that they can organize a weinie roast, I’ll stick with the people who are actually on the ballot.

          I also notice that you had nothing to say about registering voters as an actual tool.

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            Until ‘we’ shows me that they can organize a weinie roast, I’ll stick with the people who are actually on the ballot.

            I guess you missed the part where we were manning barricades and taking tear gas canisters to the face in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022… directly confronting fascism on the streets and taking it to them. Your obtuseness has no external meaning.

            I also notice that you had nothing to say about registering voters as an actual tool.

            If voting changed anything about this system, they’d make it illegal. Voting as a strategy to stop fascism was attempted in 2020. The result was a 4 year hiatus, but with no real ability or intention to take action against fascism. Biden could have had Trump arrested on day fucking one of taking power. He chose not to. Democrats chose to only make a show of any kind of consequences for a literal attempted coup, because to them, it simply wasn’t a priority. Voting as a strategy to change the system doesn’t work when the people you are obligated to vote for as the “opposition party” are not, and will not, and have no interest in changing the system: ie, Democrats.

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              I agree with everything you said 100%, except the bit about how if voting worked it’d be illegal. Republicans are literally trying to make it that way. One of their main goals is to disenfranchise as many poor people and minorities as possible, bc if everyone voted, republicans would lose every election by a landslide. That’s why they love things like manually registering to vote, randomly deregistering people, the electoral college, and hand counting ballots, while opposing mail-in and absentee ballots, automatic voter registration, RCV, basically anything that gives Americans more voting power. Voting is very much the least you can do to affect change in America, but it is still a thing you can and should do regularly before republicans abolish it

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              So, in other words, bOTh SidES arE tHe SAMe. Don’t vote, because it doesn’t work.

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                bOTh SidES arE tHe SAMe

                Everyone who says this with mixed case sarcasm does so out of bitter disappointment at the remaining differences.

                The parties agree on more shit than they should.

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                  If voting changed anything about this system, they’d make it illegal. Voting as a strategy to stop fascism was attempted in 2020.

                  It’s like you just type away and don’t even bother reading what you wrote.

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        The Dems have given up. Because it’s time for them to take a vacation after playing the part for their rich donors for the last 4 years.

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        Another NPC saying “The Left who didn’t vote are to blame” as a concern troll for the Right… Sowing the seeds of doubt basically. Shame on you but you have no shame.

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        sounds like you’re giving up already, and blaming the Dems

        We all have dog in this fight. Apparently so do the people who voted third party and refuse to see the leopards.

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          One of the reasons Hitler took power in Germany is that the other political parties couldn’t put aside their grudges and unite around a leader who would promise to keep the system running. If Harris had won last year we’d be sure of having elections in 2026. Now it’s up in the air.

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            To put that another way, though, a leader who only promises to keep the system running and not to actually fix it is part of how fascists win. Delaying the problem to 2028 isn’t the same as actually fixing the problem, and it seems the Democrats never had any intention of doing the latter.

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    If all Dems had her tenacity and honest interest in helping the middle class, we wouldn’t be where we are.

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      Dems Politicians FTFY sorry sometimes we forget because republicans/right are so pro rich class.

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        It’s not that people don’t mention Republicans in statements like that because they’re letting them off the hook; it’s that they don’t bother mentioning them because they’re a lost cause.

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    That would be a great plan if the Dems were not spineless at best and complicit at worse

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      People see comments like this and get discouraged to vote or do anything meaningful. Life is choosing the lesser of two evils. By not choosing you have chosen the greater evil thus making you complicit.

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        People see comments like this and get discouraged to vote or do anything meaningful.

        So shut up and be happy.

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        Bullshit. Electoral reform in the blue states must happen. Red states as well but we all know republicans stance on more democracy.

        Democrats have lost their “we are the only people resisting the republicans” privilege. They should have lost it long ago but we sure gave em every chance we could. No more chances, no more safe states/seats.

        This shouldn’t be hard to pass. Alaska already has a Ranked choice voting system. Plus Democrats are huge democracy supporters… right?

        Videos on Electoral Reform

        First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

        Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

        STAR voting

        Alternative vote

        Ranked Choice voting

        Range Voting

        Single Transferable Vote

        Mixed Member Proportional representation

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          If you do electoral reform in just the blue states, you strengthen the republicans who will then take all of the red states, and get a bit of some blue states

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            Who says electoral reform only happens in blue states? Alaska has always been Republican since the beginning of its statehood but they have better electoral system with its ranked choice voting.

            Fact of the matter is that most Americans are somewhere in the middle, and have more in common than you would be led to believe. Social media being controlled by powers that be divide and conquer the hearts and minds of ordinary Americans. If Alaska managed to even have a progressive system despite being a red state, then so are others. Get like-minded people in red states to also organise. Contrary to stereotype, there are many conservatives who are sane and also agree that money in politics is the major problem. You just haven’t found them.

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              Who says electoral reform only happens in blue states?

              The comment I replied to

              Electoral reform in the blue states must happen. Red states as well but we all know republicans stance on more democracy.

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          Judging from the downvotes, there are plenty of liberals who benefit from the status quo and choosing to be tone deaf.

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        That lesser evil still don’t want Medicare for all, raise the federal minimum wage, and building more affordable housing-- all of which are actually what suffocate many Americans in the ever worsening wealth inequality. That’s why people took the chance to vote Trump who promised tax cut, even though most Americans know they it doesn’t actually benefit them but the 1%.

        Look outside of the American mainstream news bubble and discourse that want you to pick the two lesser evils, instead of thinking outside the box. The only way for ordinary Americans to win basic rights is to organise and mobilise by advocating both ranked choice voting and promoting third parties. It won’t happen in federal level so start on the local and state levels, and the changes will go up the chain to federal level. It’s not like Americans haven’t gone and out mobilised before for a better change. The people simply need to rediscover that they have the power.

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          Let the greater of two evils win until there’s a perfect option to vote for. Got it.

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            Eight hour working day, even the basic implementation of minimum wage, forbidding child labour, abolishing slavery, women being allowed to work outside their home and even 14-day paid leave were once considered “not perfect”.

            Do you know how these aforementioned basic rights and privileges we take for granted were actually achieved? Organising. But of course liberals won’t get it. They benefit from the status quo. Either that or many Americans have been conditioned to think within an allowed frame of discourse by corporations and its media.

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              Hey, if you organise but vote D in the cases where it’s the best chance to keep R out, I’m happy

              If you don’t vote D in the cases where it’s the best chance to keep R out, you’re effectively supporting R regardless what you’re telling yourself. If you’re also organising, nice, but if your organising is to convince more people to effectively support R like you, we’d all be better off if you quit.

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                Who says vote D or R? Organise to have other third parties. They may not have a chance to win in federal elections, but they do well in local and state elections. Then work your way up to influence the federal government (and it’s not like there has never been a third party gaining seats in Congress and Senate).

                Read the quote from Noam Chomsky. You’re being bamboozled to think tribally. You probably just don’t hear about third parties in local and state level because the media wants you think within a spectrum of thoughts they allow people to have. Think outside the box. There are many other options.

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                  Go for it, but also vote D where they’re the only realistic option to R.

                  Otherwise, support for a third party becomes support for R, as previously with the greens

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          Bad Change - Republicans
          “Fundamentally nothing will change” - Democrats
          Change Americans need - ?

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            You will be happy with the breadcrumbs we give you or you are getting a bad change from Republicans. - Democrats

            Americans want Medicare for all, raising minimum wage and affordable housing, which Democrats are voting down. If you don’t recognise that then you benefit from the status quo and refuse to admit it.

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              You will be happy with the breadcrumbs we give you or you are getting a bad change from Republicans. - Democrats

              You will be happy with the bad change we give you because the bad change from republicans will be worse - democrats.

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                Hang on. You’re saying that Democrats want bad change. But the other guy says nothing will change. Do liberals want change or no change? I’m so confused. No wonder the Democrats would rather lose.

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                  Hang on. You’re saying that Democrats want bad change. But the other guy says nothing will change. Do liberals want change or no change? I’m so confused.

                  Two people can speculate differently concerning the same set of circumstances. I hope this clears things up for you.